PapaDrayich

Before that. I think further back, all the way back to sentinel versus scourge. The imbalance was huge. Some versions sentinel was completely unbeatable, then some versions after that scourge was the same. Picking heroes from the same pool was definently more interesting. And it still is.

So what about the games today? I think someone who is able to farm alot should make impact of the game. If someone is good enough at getting creeps and getting items meanwhile enemys arent. He should be able to change that game. As far as that im still accepting the part of dota that is consisting about farm.

The other night i played a DP2 game. As normally i was just playing for fun, i had a necrolyte and the enemys had a gankoriented lineup. They clashed us all over the map. They farmed too, became stronger and stronger. In one fight i had finally managed to setup a mekansm. They didnt know about it. They took a fight which wasnt in their favour. We won that fight, the first fight we won of that game. Score was AFTER the fight 7-20 to the enemys. I finished a pointbooster directly after. The game was over. Even if they did get me down, the efford was too big. We also had some other defensive stuns and warlock golem keeping me alive. That mekafight might have been a mistake from the enemys. But it was also gamebreaking. They couldnt afford loosing 1-2 battles. While us, the farming team could easy afford loosing the first 10.

So was team 1 just bad? One can say that. Its just DP2, one can say that too.THey failed so why not. But they putted all their efford on fighting and ganking, even sucessfully. Still a hero like necrolyte, with just meka and pointbooster made it so horribly hard to win that game.

Turtling

Farming

Playing defensive. Beat the crap outta the opposite. Ganking, Successfully pushing towers and killing heroes.

I remember mousesports times. The era of BKB. We played with warlock or lich and 2 bkb heroes. Didnt really matter what heroes it was. We won the games when we got the bkbs. It was completely insane. Noone beat us. Even then, SK played versus us. Beating the living crap outta us earlygame. And they had spectre that setup. Still we managed to win that game fairly easy. By just finishing the bkbs.

Is that how we want the competetive dota to look? Is that what the fans wanna watch? Is that what the players wanna play?

I dont think so. I think we should step a little bit back towards how it was before - not all the way tho.

Make defensive choices also cost you in the balance of the game, and make the offensive once give you more.

Magic Stick is one of those items. In a big clash it pretty much gives everyone carrying one 150 extra HP. And since everyone carrying one you could say it just gives everyone that extra hp. And you can choose to use it anywhere in the fight, it doesnt matter if your attacked. Perfect survivability spell.

You go versus a nuker in the lane and survives the first 10 nukes? Nice, now its even harder to gank you then it wouldve been if the enemy was just farming and lasthitting creeps. It doesnt encurage fighting. I've never experienced magic stick as something that encurage fighting. Its a defensive item, atleast thats how its used.

And i think when Icefrog - which i have great respect for, his work, and his betatesters - but when hes making an item which everyone in the game has use of, there is failure. Something is broken. And in this version that is the magicstick.

The supporters seems to be much more useful with that stick tho, It makes those wardbuying-suiciding-for-your-carry-hero somewhat doable in fights. Maybe thats also one of the problems. Supporters these days actually dont need any items at all. They can launch their 150hp heal anywhere in the fight and survive like that. Meaning they could get even more wards, and that you can dodge even more teamfights or ganks. Because thats what wards are made for, dodging fights. Not initiating fights, unless there is a countergang. But then again, the team doing the first efford to actually get a kill - gets killed.

I dont have extremely many ideas about howto make the game more fighty. More actionpacked. But something i was thinking about was having cooldowns shorter in earlygame. What would happen if the cooldowns on ultimates for example changed over time. 200 seconds for Enigmaulti is fair later on, but early on it only makes you really consider when you using it. If it under the first 20minutes of the game would be less - would she fight more?

If you completely ignore a hero, and it farms up and wins the game. I have understanding about that kinda dota. I appriciate it too. But if you have ganked someone alot of times, it should pay off more. It seems to be better to kill a tower then to kill a hero - which is nothing wierd. But when its better to kill 1 tower then to kill 5 heroes then im questioning it. Simply, is it really what we wanna play and what we wanna see?

So my pure suggestions, what would they be?

- Remove or completely rework magicstick.

- Make it pay more gold to be near and inside herokills - why not even more experience? And make the one not lasthitting also get gold for the actual kill. Even if they are 5.

There are possibly tousands of more ideas to make the game more actionpacked and less farmoriented. What ideas do you have?